Zero-knowledge proofs are having a moment, and @thezkcloud founder @teemupai breaks down why in our latest conversation. I’ve spent the last few months interviewing the most important builders in ZK. Full episode soon. In the last few months… I've interviewed @pumatheuma from @SuccinctLabs @robviglione from @ZKVProtocol @vreeland from @PolyhedraZK @0xsebastiena from @sophon where we discussed ZK and zkTLS, @Autholykos from @DuskFoundation, @miguel_de_vega from @nillionnetwork, just to name a few, and several more interviews coming up with ZK as the main topic. Exciting times. The time for ZK is now. Transcript: Ultimately. ZKCloud is successful if ZK is successful, and, and it's not tied to any single ZK project being successful. So it kind of functions as an index for ZK. I think if you, you know, believe in ZK at all, and that makes for an interesting, interesting investment and also proving is something these projects need to do, you know, rain or shine, right? Like bear or bull. So, there's a lot of interesting stuff on that front, but yeah. Block By Block: I think, I don't know how appropriate the analogy is, but I think of ZKCloud almost like a necessary piece of middleware, kind of like a chain link, for example. Almost everyone needs a chain link. Teemu: Yeah, actually, that's a that's a that's a great example. Actually. Yeah. Yeah, Celestia and chain link are both kind of similar in that way. Block By Block: Yeah, the benefit of, you know, when you think of Celestia (Hi @nickwh8te), it's like they're able to help, you know, save chains money, right? Or save applications that, you know, with their data availability costs. they're able to save tons of money for these applications. But the question has always been like, how does, that's nice. And as a project that they're adding value, but how does that accrue to the TIA token is kind of the big question. And I think that's a question probably every project kind of, sorry, every project eventually needs to kind of figure out. And you guys will figure that out, especially as you're marching towards main net, whenever that is. Maybe we can talk about that. What are some, I guess, what are your thoughts on mainnet and some of the work that still needs to get, you know, still needs to be done?